Sunday, August 25, 2019

Vintage Computer ENTREX NIXDORF SIEMENS OLD Rare Collectible 16-bit Front Panel

I was first notified of this auction on July 20, 2019.  This was being sold by Dick DuBois, a former employee of Entrex/Nixdorf during the reign of this system.  So, he would certainly be able to verify its origin.

He sold it on Aug 25, 2019 , 1:05AM (36 days later) for his ask of $295 (but not to me, sorry).  Congrats, Dick, and I'd love to hear from the person who bought it, to hear the story behind its meaning to them, and how they may intend to use it.  So, if you're reading this, please click the contact tab at the top of my website here, and drop me an email!

My novice commentary: This appears to be most similar to a "half-height" DCC D-116 front panel, but clearly different, in that it is lacking all branding and model markings, the key/lock tumbler barrel switch and/or hole for such.  (more differences noted by me at the bottom of this post)

It does indeed look very utilitarian, as if it was truly intended solely for testing, and never to be placed with a customer.  Dick confirms this in his auction description, below.

But I'd love to get the feedback of someone more knowledgeable on this system.  From my Digital Computer Controls - D-116 16-Bit Computer Handbook, here's the comparison:
Original eBay Auction Sold                       eBay Auction Archive
 
 
 
 
Very Rare Vintage Collectible Computer 16 Bit Front Panel
ENTREX / NIXDORF / SIEMENS
This panel measures 19" X 5"
and was mounted in the front of the
CPU chassis during troubleshooting.
It was not usually left on site.
We are not sure if it still works
so we are selling it as - no returns
A real nice piece of vintage computer history.
Nice collector's item.

Sunday, August 4, 2019

Nixdorf 480 80 Series Operations Manual

I acquired this from https://www.ebay.com/itm/133104961852

While it seems to be from 1979-1980, and the Data/Scope Keystation style has changed to the upgraded style (and they even call it a Data/Terminal Keystation now), my hope is the system had changed little else since earlier versions...or so we can hope!
Anyway, here is the entire manual, scanned.  Enjoy!

**BONUS:  I even scanned the inserted notes and extra printed pages that were in this manual, in the exact location between the exact pages that they were found, to preserve the context, in case they were significant there.  So, when you see things that don't look like the manual right in the middle, now you know why...

WARNING:  This pdf is 146Mb in size.  So, in order not to choke your browser, you may choose to right-click the link and choose "download", rather than just click the link directly...you've been warned...


old link:
http://6reoquestions.com/misc/Entrex/Manuals/Nixdorf%20480%2080%20Series%20Operations%20Manual.pdf

Wednesday, July 24, 2019

The key to the Entrex system was the Scanner board and software...

 Barry King 

Hi AJ. Sorry for the extremely late response. I have been very busy the last months. The key to the Entrex system was the Scanner board and software developed by 2 or 3 guys at MIT as a project to complete their Master's. Without those two it was just a regular Data General mini-computer. The scanner polled each terminal for service and did it extremely fast.. Each terminal was directly connected individually. From the Entrex/Nixdorf days, all I have are a handful of terminal connectors and a Field Service book. If I can provide any helpful info just let me know. I will watch more closely. Regards, Barry

Monday, July 1, 2019

Vintage 1972 Core Memory Motherboard - Digital Computer Controls - Collectible

Original eBay Auction                       eBay Auction Archive

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Vintage 1972 Core Memory - Motherboard Digital Computer Controls - Collectible
The title says it all. The board is 15" x 15". Would look great hanging on your wall. All that power...
BTW, as far as I know, this board does not work, so...Non-working. It is presented for the Art that it Is. 
Component side has two areas of slight oxidation. See photos. I didn't attempt to clean on the off chance that I'd do something I shouldn't. Otherwise board is very clean.

Sunday, June 9, 2019

key tronic corp. Keyboard 065-01149- on Entrex Data/Scope

Now that we can finally see more close up what the internal workings of an Entrex Data/Scope keyboard look like, we can see the manufacture and at least one of the model numbers:

KEY TRONIC CORPORATION

065-01159-

And then the stamped 003 after that.  Not sure how significant that is, but since it's stamped and the other numbers are etched directly into the board, it seems like those last 3 digits can change easily, where the previous digits are the true model number "set in stone" for this board.

Let's see what insights the experts over on Deskthority.com have on this...
 

Thursday, June 6, 2019

Entrex Data/Scope in Atari 400 800 XL XE catalog - ZiMAG

I came across this advertisement for ZiMAG magnetic media (clearly quite vintage early 80s) at 


And on PAGE 10 (or 11, depending on if you count the front cover as page 1), we clearly see an Entrex Data/Scope!  What's that doing in there?  Well...let's take a closer look...
Firstly, the chassis cover is painted this very nice dark charcoal color, which matches the advertisement colors very nicely.  I've never seen one in charcoal before, only white and off-white (or yellowed with age).  I've seen red, but then again, it could be for exactly the same "display only" reason that I suspect here.  Here's why I say this:

It sure looks like the blue and white keys have been all painted black, and that a few red and black keys have been moved around a bit.  (Note that only a few black keys show the white lettering, but most are just plain black).  
For example, the HELP! key should be on the top of the right (atop the right vertical row), but instead, it is on the extreme left middle of the main key group, which should be a red RESET key instead of the black HELP! key.
It sure looks to me like this keyboard has been modified for the aesthetics of the advertisement, rather than functionality.  Still, VERY nice job...from first glance, it is quite an attractive piece in this context.

What I'm more interested in, is the code on the screen.  Looks like standard line basic to me...was it really displayed on this Entrex, or superimposed there? It appears a bit too close to the top edge to be on a CRT, and they were all black & white screens, displaying only 480 characters (12 rows of 40), which is WAY larger letters than what se see here... BUT, who knows?

Wednesday, June 5, 2019

Entrex Data/Scopes (Keystations) spotted in Germany

We JUST found TWO Entrex Data Scopes on eBay.de from March & April 2018...in GERMANY!
And they SOLD!  And we missed them...  

Haben Sie eine dieser Data/Scope Keystations gekauft?  Bitte kontaktieren Sie uns, wenn Sie es getan haben!
Did you buy one of these Data/Scope Keystations?  Please contact us if you did!

March 5, 2018   222852550966
 (archived by me)
(original auction, now removed, was at http://bit.ly/312R6Xc )

AND


April 28, 2018    222930393667 (archived by me)

(original auction, now removed, was at http://bit.ly/31bKSob )

On first guess, one might think that these two auctions are one single Keystation, listed twice.  However, while each of them are remarkably similar, a closer inspection of the labels and serial numbers indicate that they are, indeed, two distinctly separate Keystations.

So, how did we miss these?  I guess we failed to learn how to set up eBay alerts in GERMANY...that's why...ebay.de only, NOT reported on ebay.com!

Auction 222852550966 (serial # 220123)

Saturday, June 1, 2019

Tuesday, May 14, 2019

Backplane "Mapper" (DG Nova, DCC D-116 & Entrex 480/Nixdorf 620)

This is a crazy project that I'm just muddling my way through with sheer ignorance and determination.

I want to test every connection in every slot of the backplane of Dominique's Entrex 480/Nixdorf 620, since it is the only known surviving system of its kind in existence, and then reverse engineer the thing from the center outward.

So, here's the backplane "adapter board" design (version 2)
Click to download the Gerber files version 3 by Alberto Medrano

Order this at 1.2mm thickness, NOT 1.6mm default.  I did my first round at 1.6mm default, and the board was too thick to fit into the backplane card edge connectors.

And here's my concept schematic on how I'm going to use an Arduino (I know...can't I do better??!!!) to test each and every connection in each slot I plug the set into.

Yes, there are so many things wrong with it...I know...

Here's the Gerber files of my latest version by Alberto Medrano

And for the first time, I'm going to try to order these from JLCPBC

This is what I'm comparing against, and these are the only backplane schematics/charts that I have for any Entrex 480/Nixdorf620, DSS-116 or Data General NOVA system.  Can anyone else find more on bitsavers, or elsewhere?
 

Wednesday, May 8, 2019

Digital Computer Controls - D-116 16-Bit Computer Handbook - 1972

Well, since the Entrex 480 / Nixdorf 620 system clearly has a D-116 as it's processor, it seems that acquiring this manual was a priority...so we did!

Vintage Digital Computer controls - D-116 16-Bit Computer Handbook - 1972


For comparison, Dominique's Nixdorf 620 processor label

Thursday, March 14, 2019

Nixdorf DSS 620 Service Manuals

eBay Seller vitesse1000 reports on 2019-02-26:

He was the seller of these 2 auctions.  (And I was the buyer, of course...)



Nixdorf DSS 620 Computer Service Manual - Entrex Key-to-Disc

 

The use of Nixdorf 620 systems in [European] lottery coupon processing

The seller of these fantastic service manuals has provided his history working with these systems.  We are all thankful that he remembers this, saved these images, and especially, the service manuals...thank you Brian!

Here is his own story, in his own words:

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In the second half of the last century, many European countries introduced national or regional lotteries in order to raise funds to benefit good causes and charities.

Coupons were available to buy by the general public at agent locations such as tobacconists, newsagents and other local stores. Each coupon had a unique machine-readable (magnetic or optical fonts) serial number in a range of layouts depending on the games offered by the lottery operator – could be simple games of chance e.g. selecting 5 numbers out of 45, 6 numbers out of 49 etc. or based on skill and knowledge such as predicting the results of soccer matches.

All of the completed lottery coupons were returned to each lottery organisation’s central processing centre by the selling agents on a weekly basis. At the centre the coupons were microfilmed for security before passing through high speed document reader / sorters (up to 30 coupons per second / 108,000 per hour) in order to capture the betting mark and serial number data of all the punters’ coupons, which was then written to magnetic tapes.

Any coupons with read errors, such as not enough or too many marks, missing or invalid (e.g. failed check sum) serial numbers, were physically segregated by the reader / sorter equipment.

The Nixdorf 620 Key to Disc systems were used for a range of processes but mainly to access the rejected coupon data records from the magnetic tapes, load them to disc to facilitate the manual correction / verification of the data by operators visually checking each rejected coupon.

The corrected data records were then merged with the previously correctly read data to produce a master record of all coupons entering the pool that week. After the drawing of the lucky balls for a straight lottery or the completion of the soccer matches, the master record was then processed to produce winners lists for the different classes of win and the printing of payout cheques to be sent to the winners.

In the early 1970’s, I was involved with the installation and commissioning of the reader / sorter equipment and the Nixdorf 620 systems at the French lottery’s new computer centre situated in the grounds of a chateau not far from Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport. This lottery was originally setup to support French war injured soldiers but subsequently became the French national lottery. Its data processing operations were modeled on those of the highly successful Nordwestlotto, based in the German state of Nordrhein-Westfalen.

Although I was never directly involved with the German equipment, they also used Nixdorf 620’s (and later 8870/6’s) for reject coupon correction / verification.

At around the same time, the Massachusetts State Lottery introduced similar machine-readable coupons and high speed reader / sorters. They would also have had a need for reject coupon processing. Maybe they used the Entrex system???

The below images provide some visual reference to the above text.  

Click each to enlarge, or click the "see maximum size" hyperlink below each image

620 installation at French lottery – 2 of the 3 main system racks and printers